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Oct 2, 2012 10:00pm PDT
caught in a lie today about his secret tax returns. >>> and in voter suppression news, a big win for voters in a pennsylvania courtroom today. and in the rewrite, the only way mitt romney can win the debate, it was all laid out for him by the best republican presidential debater ever, who was of course a fictional character in the t.v. series olaf's pizza palace gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve the most rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? we might still be making mix tapes. find this. pause this. play this. eject this. write this. it's like the days before esurance express lane™. you had to find a bunch of documents just to get a car insurance quote. now express lane finds your driving info with just one clic
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Oct 4, 2012 8:00pm PDT
got to do? we got to get to work. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> why won't romney level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? >> the obama campaign gets aggressive on mitt romney's lies on the airwaves. >> if we can't trust him here, how could we ever trust him here? >> and on the campaign trail -- >> governor romney made the dance around his positions but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> tonight, stephanie cutter of the obama campaign on last night's performance and the way forward. sam stein, e.j. dionne on romney's style versus the president's substance. >> i like pbs. i love big bird. >> david k. johnston on romney's huge tax lie. james hoffa of the teamsters on romney's 108 on his feelings for the american middle class. and ohio state senator nina turner on what last night's debate means for the buckeye state. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. if it were just only a game, right? the presidential debate last night was ugly. it was an ugly nig
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 3:00pm PDT
year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms. but don't boo, vote. but the fellow on stage last night, he loves teachers. can't get enough of them. the mitt romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of outsourcing jobs to other countries. but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. he's never heard of them. never heard of them never heard of tax breaks company for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last y
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Oct 4, 2012 10:00am PDT
running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very din visions for the country. and i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> overnight polls and "the denver post" give round one to romney. as a republican challenger went after the president's record. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spent his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> the president faulted romney for being too vague. >> at some point, i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all of these plans to replace secret because
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 6:00pm PDT
perspective that says if we cut taxes, skewed towards the wealthy, and roll back regulations, that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. i think we've got to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure that we're helping small businesses and companies that are investing here in the united states. that we take some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild america. and that we reduce our deficit in a balanced way that allows us to make these critical investments. now, it ultimately is going to be up to the voters, to you, which path we should take. are we going to double down on the top-down economic policies that helped to get us into this mess or do we embrace a new economic patriotism that says america does best when the middle class does best? and i'm looking forward to having that debate. >> governor romney, two minutes. >> thank you, jim. it's an honor to be here with you, and i appreciate the chance to be with the president. i'm ple
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 6:00am PDT
agreements to come through. first on taxes where the president pressed romney on what he characterized as a $5 trillion tax cuts. >> he's saying he's going to pay for it by closing loopholes and deductions. the problem is he's been asked over 100 times how to close the deductions and loopholes and he hasn't been able to identify them. >> virtually everything he said about the tax plan is enaccurate. if it were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say absolutely not. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cuts. i said i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan, and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big bold idea is never mind. >> let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> it dominated the deficit reduction part of the debate as the president reached back to an iconic moment from the primaries. >> governor romney stood on the stage with other republican candidates for the nomination, and he was asked, would you take $10 of spending cut
MSNBC
Oct 6, 2012 5:00am PDT
in tax cuts that favor the wealthy and yet the fellow on the stage last night looked like mitt romney said he did not know anything about that. >> also on thursday mitt romney took another huge step in his unfolding journey of self-discovery. speaking to shawn hennessy on fox news he repudiated the infamous 47% comments he made in may. >> in this case i said something that was just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president it will be about helping the 100%. >>> all right. 100%. we're all in on the 100%. first let me throw it up to you guys. we've been chewing over the debate performance. i think my own take, that the president did not perform well in the debate. that's a real novel take on my part. that's what you tuned in for at home. but i don't think he performed as catastrophically poorly as other people seem to think he did. that's more or less where i'm at. maybe that's not great insightment for real hot talk. >>
MSNBC
Oct 2, 2012 7:00pm PDT
lie today about his secret tax returns. >>> and in voter suppression news, a big win for voters in a pennsylvania courtroom today. and in the rewrite, the only way mitt romney can win the debate, it was all laid out for him by the best republican presidential debater ever, who was of course a fictional character in the t.v. series "the west wing." nd.. ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. to start her own interior design business. she's got a growing list of clients she keeps in touch with using e-mail marketing from constantcontact.com. constantcontact is easy and affordable. it lets her send out updates and photos that showcase her expertise and inspire her customers for only $15 a month. [ dog barking ] her dream -- to be the area's hottest interior design office. [ children laughing ] right now, she just dreams of an office. get a free trial at constantcontact.com. most paints h
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Oct 1, 2012 7:00pm PDT
ryan says they don't have enough time to explain how they will change your tax deductions, like your home mortgage tax deduction, in the romney/ryan tax plan. not enough time. they can't even say if you will pay more or less with their tax plan. well, mitt, i'm sure president obama will give you as many of his minutes as you need to explain it all in wednesday night's debate. >> mitt romney needs a great october. >> we know romney needs a great october. >> to change the course of this campaign. >> the final push is on. >> just days away from the first presidential debate. >> both candidates cramming for the first debate. >> everyone trying to lower expectations. >> franticly spinning to lower expectations. >> >> president obama is an experienced debatetor. >> i'm just okay. >> almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell thvernlths is mitt's first time. >> i don't buy that. >> chris christie is taking a different tack. >> we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinary well on wednesday night. come thursday morning when we get to thursday morning, the ent
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 11:30pm PDT
are the facts of the matter. the idea that mitt romney won't cut taxes on people at the high end of the income scale apreposterous. i think you would agree. obviously if the republicans get into power they are going to cut taxes at the high income and he got on stage tonight and said no. >> romney's problem is that this debate is in 2012, not 1812. we have things we can hit a button to show what he has said before. no doubt mitt romney was at his best tonight but his best is not good enough. when you look at the fact that he's saying that taxes will not go up on the middle class, yet he is proposing all the way through this campaign, dealing with deductions in terms of mortgage investments, dealing with deductions in terms of charity, it will in fact go up on the middle class and a much lower tax rate for the rich. the fact will not bear him out. when he stood there all night advocating states' rights across the board, what is that saying to women about who is going to decide on women's issues? what is that saying to minorities t immigration? this man went back to the 19th century o
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 1:00pm PDT
. >> suddenly a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. >> we are going to win this. we're taking back the white house. >> the romney family is taking back this campaign. >> or not. >> that was kind of strange. trying to stick words in people's mouths. >> stay in your seats. there's just four weeks until election day. >> the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. >> don't pay any attention to that tax cut behind the curtain. >> i'm not sure exactly precisely with what i said but i stand behind it, whatever it was. >> we begin exactly 28 days until the election with both the president and his challenger declaring they will win a race that is anything but settled. today their paths will cross again in ohio, the state that may yet decide this election. amid new signs of urgency from both campaigns. case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the presi
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 3:00pm PDT
offering. the centerpiece of governor romney's economic plan is a new $5 trillion tax cuts that favors the wealthiest americans, but most of the economists who have crunched the numbers said that paying for governor romney's tax plan -- one or the other. pick your poison. last week when we were on stage together. governor romney just pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention for that tax cut under the carpet behind the curtain. >>> romney's pretending his tax cut plan doesn't exist, but the president won't let him get away with it. he also won't let him get away with hitting the middle class to protect his own tax rate. >> governor romney said it's fair he pays a lower tax rate than a teacher or autoworker who makes $50,000. he is wrong. i refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for owning a home or raising their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut. i refuse to pay for that tax cuss by asking you students to pay more for college or kicking kits out of headstart or elimi
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 2:30am PDT
details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments we need to make without dumping those costs on to middle class americans is one of the central questions to this campaign. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans are buried. they are being crushed. their income has come down by $4,300. this is a tax in and of itself. call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. at the same time, gasoline prices doubled. electric rates are up, food prices are up. health care costs have gone up by $2500 a family. middle income families are being crushed. the question is how to get them going again. >> governor romney defended his tax plan repeatedly. the romney proposal would give breaks to the wealthy while putting a burden on the middle class. >> i know you and your running mate keep saying
MSNBC
Oct 2, 2012 8:00pm PDT
trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you could use your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. >> at least the plan has a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions at $17,000 for all americans. is that good for the middle class? do the math. for rich americans, the cap, it just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being hilarious is it would only cover $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 trillion tax cut. that's according to the tax policy center. they figured it out. even when romney gives specifics he doesn't answer the questions. e we still don't know how he plans to pay for the tax cuts without hurting the middle class. paul ryan is sticking to his reason for not giving any specifics to chris wallace on fox news. he said he had no time. >> i'm going to give you th
MSNBC
Oct 5, 2012 6:00am PDT
government phrase looks like an attempt to neutralize attacks on his tax plan as just one more version of, quote, trickle down economics. romney did some major cleanup work yesterday on the comment that had been the most damaging to his campaign in the last few weeks, the 47% comment. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that is just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about a hundred percent. >> that's what he said. everything he said there he said was completely wrong. does raise this question. how many resets can a presidential nominee have? take a look at romney's shifting responses over the last three weeks on 47% to put it all in perspective. >> as i point out i recognize that among those that pay no tax approximately 47% of americans i'm not likely to be highly successful with a message of lowering taxes. you know, it's not elegantly stated. let me put it that way. i am speaking
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 5:00pm PDT
candidate we've seen for the last couple of years. last week romney lied about his policies on taxes, education and health care. today the candidate's positions went under the knife during a speech at the military institute. romney laid out a complete reversal on his strategy for middle east peace. >> i'll recommit america to the goal of a democratic, prosperous state living side by side in peace and security with the jewish state of israel. >> the new mitt romney is committed to a two-state solution, but this is not what mitt romney told a group of donors in private. >> priceless tape. direct from romney's mouth, you hope for some stability and hope something will happen. listen to the new mitt romney today in his opinion on hope. >> i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more prosperous middle east aligned with us. i share this hope. but hope is not a strategy. >> the new mitt romney didn't flinch when he made a false accusation. >> i'll champion free trade and restore it as a critical element of our strategy. both in the middle east and across the world. the president h
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 4:00pm PDT
him how he's going to stimulate economic growth by cutting taxes and getting rid of deductions? would you tell the american people exactly or even generally what you're actually going to do? >> well, i'm with you, chris. i think plat tuds and zingers don't work in a format like this. he has to have a good debate. he has to pass president obama in the polls if he's to be elected president, obviously. tonight, at a moment of peril for the country, where we have challenges abroad, severe challenges domestically, how do we restore our balance sheet in this country, how do we deal with the challenges abroad? we live in a serious time. and improvement and understanding in the race and transaction by question. >> just out today, the race is tied and obama up by seven and the latest nbc wall street journal poll. >> a new poll from telemundo, obama is up by 50, howard, among hispanics. let's go to howard fineman. back to my big question. he's had a terrible month or two. he does not look presidential. bill clinton and the president have been able to build up the notion that the economy'
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 8:00pm PDT
taxes, education and healthcare. today the candidates foreign policy positions went under the knife during a speech at the virginia military institute. romney laid out a complete reversal on his strategy for mideast peace. >> i recommit america to the goal of democratic prosperous palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the jewish state of israel. >> the new mitt romney is totally committed to a two-state solution in israel but this is not what mitt romney told a group of wealthy donors in private. >> and i look at the palestinians not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes -- of iz real and these thorny issues, and i say there's just no way going to remain an unsolved problem we live with that in china and taiwan. all right, we have a potentially volatile situation but we sort of live with it, and we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately, somehow, something will happen and resolve it. >> priceless tape, isn't it? direct from romney's mouth. you hope from is some stability. you hope something will happen. listen to the new mitt r
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 5:00pm PDT
you have revenue neutrality in these tax cuts he's talking about. his only plan for economic improvement in this country is to cut the taxes mainly of the rich. that's his only plan. the only defense of this strategy is he's going to get rid of loopholes. tell us that, governor. show us what you're going to do or stop talking. i think he's got to be that aggressive. but the main message is, show me your cards. stop bluffing. >> we have seen a little bit of telegraphing this week from mr. romney, that maybe he will put some details into his economic talk. he's started to float some new ideas about taxes that he never floated before. my question is whether or not he thinks the right place to unveil those is in a debate setting. surprise the president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, wh
MSNBC
Oct 1, 2012 11:00pm PDT
going to end it or, for that matter, those two. to finance a big across the board tax cut but not tell us how. not what big across the board deductions he'll deny people in order to pay for it or even what taxes he's been paying himself over the years. or how he'll finance all those popular things in the president's health care plan once he kills the plan itself. lots of secrets. secrets because he himself has no earthly idea what the answers are. i'm joined by democratic strategist bob shrum and salon's joan walsh. first, however, we have two new national polls on the presidential race. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll, president obama has a two-point lead holding there, 49%/47%. same score in the new politico poll. obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practic
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 1:00pm PDT
hear a specific from mr. romney on how he plans for a revenue-neutral 20% tax cut across the board for every american? are we going to hear that tonight in. >> no, absolutely not. i think what you're going to hear and see is more of a tactic. sort of a communications tactic of making it sound like he's talking like a plan, like that 17,000 cap he threw out the other day and then his team walked that right back. probably -- >> karen, that's known as i've got a hole in my pocket, dear liza. >> that's right. you'll hear him talk about a number of these things as if it sounds like a plan, but without any specifics. i think what you'll see from the president is more specifics. again, the president actually has a record to talk about. i mean, put forward a health care plan. happened to be, you know, based on mitt's, but whatever. he has a jobs plan, a number of things of specifics he can point to whereas romney doesn't. i think that will be part of the contrast the president will be going for. i think romney's only defense on that, since i don't think he'll give us specifics, is rhetoric
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 2:00am PDT
said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to add to the deficit. >> romney proposed making the bush tax cuts permanent for all levels. he would repeal the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax. the snon-partisan tax said it would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years. romney said his plan would be paid for. to pay for the cuts, he would have to close loopholes in the tax codes and get red of deductions and credits. he hasn't said which he'd get rid of, saying he would work with congress. president obama said his plan would cut the deficit by $4 trillion. >> we all know we have to do more. so, i put forward a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. it's on a website. you can look at all the numbers, what cuts we make and what revenue we raise. >> that comes from the budget and policy priorities. the president is counting money saved by letting the bush tax cuts expire for people making more than $250,000 a year. he's counting $1 trillion in savings but cutting down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the committee for responsible budget called that a gimm
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 7:00pm PDT
no income tax. 47% of people pay no income tax. so our message of low taxes doesn't connect. he'll be out there talking for tax cuts of the rich. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. krystal ball, i don't know. that sounds to me like it's a description of how he would be as president. so my job is not to worry about those people? >> well, he may have contempt for you, but that doesn't mean he's going to act like he has contempt for you when he's president. obviously, when he was in that particular room, he was telling the people in that room that that's exactly who he would be as president. and i think what we see from mitt romney is who he is and what he says is all dependent on the expediencies of the moment. if we had a president romney, he would mostly be held hostage by a republican congress who was pushing him to the right. that is
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 2:00pm PDT
who don't pay income tax just want to hang around, be dependent on the government and, you know, we just had to wean them off of that. because they didn't want to pay income tax. now, a guy with a tax account in the caymen islands is attacking other people for not wanting -- you have to give him credit, like i said. >> i love it when they put it together. when they put it together, this guy, bunch of bumz that don't want to pay the taxes and then a guy with a quarter billion dollars stuffing it offshore. bill clinton, your guy. you taught him, didn't you? >> i taught him everything he knows. no, he really has had a great moment of framing these questions. and of putting this into terms that ordinary voters can understand and relate to. framing the question -- >> i could understand him. i never thought of putting those two things together like that. the fact these bums don't want to pay tax and the richest guy in the world is avoiding tax. >> bill clinton has the best peripheral vision in the history of politics. he knows how to do it. clinton uses a sense of humor to do it, to make
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 8:00am PDT
unfair burden against the poor, allotting it to a poll tax, they said this was a poll tax and would be voter suppression in texas and would not be happening there. like they are utilizing in other states. >> okay. so -- in the state of rhode island which i think -- my home state which is pretty controlled by the democratic party, they didn't see too much outrage there when they did it. i think when you look at every poll that's ever come out, 70% to 80% of americans support this, so i think that somehow equate showing a photo i.d. which in most states is given -- free if there is an issue with the person's economic condition, then somehow requiring people to show the same type of thing had would be required to get government assistance and get on an airplane and try government building and is actually a common sense move to ensure we maintain the integrity -- >> the basic right of an american isn't to fly, is it? >> i don't understand your question. >> your basic american right in certain things is to be able to vote. >> i don't understand how -- entering a government building, gett
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Oct 10, 2012 1:00pm PDT
trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention to that tax cut under the carpet. >> now, that was the president waxing incredulous while former president bill clinton last night, well, he went full clintonian, painting the picture of how mitt's transformation went down. >> the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that's how he described himself. for two whole years. until three or four days before the debate they got together and said, hey, this ship is sinking faster than the titanic so show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. what are you doing? >> i think he actually caught air there. and it's no wonder with romney suddenly shifting on all marng of positions, lately it's a woman's right to choose. here he is to "the des moines register" on tuesday. >> there's no legislation with regarding -- with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> funny. around this time last year mitt romney was outla
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Oct 2, 2012 10:00am PDT
. but when are -- >> no, no andrea -- >> specific. >> it is not a goal to end tax breaks for companies that move jobs overseas and incentivize them to come back and create a million jobs in manufacturingp. we've seen the greatest increase in manufacturing jobs in more than 20 years under this president. so we have a sense of what has to happen in order to bring those businesses back and create those jobs. those aren't goals. you know, reducing our dependence on foreign oil by increasing our domestic production incentivizing clean energy to create jobs and put people back to work, those aren't goals, those are plans to continue to move this economy forward. look, i also hope that mitt romney will take some of the time paul ryan didn't want to take in his interview this weekend and try to explain the arithmetic behind their budget. paul ryan said it would take too long to explain their budget plan. the problem isn't the time and explanation. it's the math that's involved to make the statements that mitt romney and paul ryan have said line up to being anything close to the truth. and i th
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Oct 7, 2012 4:30am PDT
tax plan already lowered taxes for 98% of families, i also lowered taxes for small businesses 18 times. and what i want to do is continue the tax rates, the tax cuts that we put into place for small businesses and families. >> i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes. federal income, state sales tax, property tax cab gas tax, over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. >> what is main street's reaction? we have two of our most outspeaken regulars here to discuss. app entrepreneur and best-selling author, find him at rural 1 investing upon the com. carol roth, can you find her at carolroth.com. good to you you guy he. >> you too, j. >> i think it is clear that romney ran all over obama. from a small business owner's perspective he addressed the issues we have not seen addressed offer th
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Oct 3, 2012 2:00am PDT
obama. mainly on tax policy. >> reporter: vice president biden charged team romney would hike middle-class taxes. >> how they can justify raising taxes in the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> reporter: republicans jumped on that, buried by obama? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of theitis. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard at debate number one. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news, denver, colorado. >> and of course we'll have complete all-day coverage leading up to tonight's first 2012 presidential debate and then be sure to stay tuned for the main event, that starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern time right here on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> last night on "the ed show" president obama's senior campaign adviser, robert gibbs, describes what he hopes to hear at tonight's presidential debate. take a listen. >> i hope the moderator gives governor romney a chance to do what paul ryan
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Oct 5, 2012 2:30am PDT
the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. yet, the fellow on the stage last night, who looked like mitt romney, said he did not know anything about that. but i just want to make sure i got this straight. he'll get rid of regulations on wall street, but he's going to crack down on "sesame street." thank goodness somebody's finally cracking down on big bird. who knew he was responsible for all these deficits. >> mitt romney picked up the endorsement of the national rifle association earlier in the day yesterday. had some swagger as he walked on stage last night in fisherville, virginia. >> now, last night was an important night for the country because people got the -- [ cheers and applause ] they got the chance to cut through all the attacks and counterattacks and all of the theatrics associated with the campaign. instead, they were able to listen to substance. i appreciate the fact that jim lehrer asked questions of substance and we each responded to them. i got the chance to ask the president questions people across the country wanted to ask him. such a
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Oct 2, 2012 1:00pm PDT
promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and you can use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care dedu
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Oct 4, 2012 4:00pm PDT
some issues he could have pounced on romney for. let's watch. >> i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. with regards to young people coming along, i have got proposals to make sure medicare and social security are there for them without any question. number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. we've had 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%. if i'm president, i will create -- help create 12 million new jobs in this country with rising incomes. >> governor, i don't know how he got away with it. i don't know why the president didn't say it. he wants to get rid of the estate tax. the wealthiest people that got a quarter billion bucks in the bank, they want to keep it for their kids when they're gone. that's for the rich. 47%, he said people on social security are a bunch of bums and parasites. now he's saying i just want to save what they have. and this thing about pre-existing condition. he didn't tell the truth last night. he doesn't have a plan to cover it. >> he lied. >> his guy came out and made sure, he said he didn't mean to say that
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Oct 5, 2012 9:00am PDT
thing to do to pay for obama care. also got to point out he's in favor of a tax plan that will kill 700,000 jobs. so he had the chance to answer those questions or not answer them as the case may be, but then -- i think even more important was the chance to talk about where we're going in the future and what he would do and i'd do and what he described was n my view, a reiteration of the status quo. he's going to keep doing the things he's done in the past, have a stimulus if he can, hire more government workers if he can, he's going to pick winners and losers like solyndra, tesla. a friend of mine said he doesn't like picking winners and losers, he likes picking losers. and so -- and, of course, he's in favor of higher taxes. yesterday the vice president blurted out the truth. he said, in fact, they do want to raise taxes a trillion dollars. i don't want to raise taxes on any americans because i want to create good jobs in america. now i take america in a very different direction. first of all, i want to make sure that our policies encourage job growth. i have five things i'll do,
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Oct 9, 2012 11:00pm PDT
medicare providers like insurance companies that are overcharging. he has to attack on the issue of taxes. there aren't enough tax loopholes or tax deductions to pay for romney's tax cut unless you cut into home interest mortgage deductions, unless you get rid of state and local taxes. that will hit the middle class hard. you have to be honest about this. the debate hurt obama and helped romney, and romney's gotten a bump in the polls, although it seems to be flattening out. you look at the new poll in ohio, the president is at 51%, romney is at 47%. i think the president, the fundamental structure of the race hasn't been changed, but if he doesn't go on the attack, if biden doesn't do a good job against ryan, and if the president doesn't show up and isn't strong in the second debate, then you're going to have a tossup race. >> well, i would disagree with your approach, first of all. i don't approach it that way. that's going back and relegating all the old arguments. in spirit what i would do, unlike shrumy, i would take the big issue that is separating the candidates, don't get into the
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Oct 7, 2012 5:00am PDT
small business growth lowered taxes for small bidses. through small businesses. 97% of small businesses. >> it's small businesses. a guy who has a small business. successful small businesses. >> those small businesses. >> all the praise for small businesses and their owners obscures the questions we should ask. what counts as a small business and what is their role in the u.s. economy? many of these small businesses talked about are anything but small. in order to avoid paying income taxes, they use sole propriet proprietorships and s-corporations. the owners file the profits on individual tax returns making the term small business about the number of owners rather than anything else. as a result, these small business owners include partners of hedge funds. also, donald trump. >> under governor romney's definition there are a bunch of millionaires and billionaires who are small businesses. donald trump is a small business. i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything, but it's how you define small businesses to get business income. >> this term is driving me nut, i hav
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Oct 9, 2012 9:00pm PDT
that by cutting taxes? >> those are your words, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. trying to stuff words in people's mouths? >> it sounds like you're -- >> ryan folks putting the paper in front of the camera and everything. vice presidential nominee paul ryan getting annoyed in this interview with terry camp in flint, michigan. the campaign even after the interview was over still went out of their way to trash the reporter that paul ryan walked out of that interview on. the campaign giving on the record quotes calling the reporter an embarrassment. the city where that reporter works and where that interview took place does have the worst violent crime rate in the nation. god bless flint, michigan. so that line of questioning here for mr. ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his prescription fo
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Oct 4, 2012 7:00am PDT
on specifics. >> he says that he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for but we don't know the details. he says that he's going to replace dot frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he's going to replace obama care. at some point i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? is it because somehow middle class families are going to benefit too much from them? >> let me bring in nick khristoff. let me read one of your many tweets last night, nick. obama is such a gifted speaker but tonight he seemed passive, distracted and defensive. what happened? >> i mean n a word, he blew it. it is not the same as blowing a campaign. i think part of it was expectations and romney did much better than expectations. but beyond that, he let romney get away with accusing him of being the one who is undecided on big banks, on being the one who would let people lose their health in
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Oct 5, 2012 10:00pm PDT
economy, get a more efficient tax code, get the deficit down over time. that that will help you. when you give them truth serum, you're talk and you off the record, the disruption might be tough for the first few months. but they would argue that the longer term, since we're on the right track would be worth it. that's not an argument you see in the debates. it's not the way the argument gets framed. but that's the core ideological dispute in the election. >> on the other side that's been surprising is president obama, they don't talk about their big idea on the jobs. they don't talk about the jobs act. they didn't bring it up in the debates. why do you think that is? because that is a big responsive, a big idea on jobs here. >> there's a great new book called the "new new deal" about the stimulus that came out in 2009 and was almost $8 hundred billion saying it was a great success. it did a lot of things to help this recession from being worse. it's something that the president's political advisers, they do the polling. it does not resonate with swing voters. people look around and s
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Oct 4, 2012 9:00am PDT
. exhibit a, the 20% across the board tax cut that is estimated to cost taxpayers $4.8 trillion. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. >> first, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of the scale that you're talking. no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds 5 trillion. about i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> romney never actually said there would be a 20% tax cut? >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans by 20%. i want a 20% across the board reduction in taxes. the individual marginal tax rate 20% across the board. the top rate, for instance, would go from 35 to 28, middle rates would come down by 20% as well, all rates come down. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was
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Oct 4, 2012 7:00pm PDT
$5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across the board. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> i will repeal obamacare. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. >> he is saying he would not cut education. >> he says we need more firemen and more policemen. >> did he not get the message or wisconsin? >> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wrong when he said that 47% of americans are hopele lless losers. he was asked what he should have said. >> what would you have said if he did bring it up? >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and
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Oct 8, 2012 2:00pm PDT
, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he do denied his plan to limit nate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bolterring to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the energy ro emergency room. let's look at the some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days sibts the debate and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the last seven days. gallup has president oba
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Oct 7, 2012 11:00am PDT
economic theory, of tax cuts for the rich. the notion that let's go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss, that's exactly what got us into this mess. that's what we've spent four years digging out. >> that's really not what they saw. i get the interpretation you've got a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be somebody they had never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising he was the guy brimming with new ideas and energy. they saw the president of the united states who was sleepwalking the whole time. >> i don't disagree -- >> the tired contrast rang a bell with people. romney's got ideas and the president, there's no vision for a second term. >> mike, i don't doubt this was somebody they never seen before. quite frankly, i think there were people in the romney campaign that had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 billion tax cut. he said i don't have time. mitt romney said, we don't do math. you cannot wish away the existence of your entire campaign platform as in
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Oct 3, 2012 9:00am PDT
americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of tonight's debate in denver is the man who knows from game change, emmy darling, "time" magazine and msnbc senior political analyst whose publication is out with an issue today, who's telling the truth, the fact wars. mark halperin, i've been trying to find appropriate terms that would be substitutes for the phrase game change. i can't. you coined it, you own it. which of these videos, is either one of these videos a game changer in terms of tonight's debate? >> alex, any student of political tv and cable news who didn't watch hannity last night i pity the fool. it was an awesome episode of the s
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